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The Truth About Autism and Water Safety with Swim Angelfish Co-Founder Cindy Freedman


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The Truth About Autism and Water Safety with Swim Angelfish Co-Founder Cindy Freedman

“If we train for access and safety in the water, we’re saving lives — not just teaching swim.”

–Cindy Freedman


In this episode of The Sound Off, Michele Gay talks with Cindy Freedman, co-founder of Swim Angelfish and pediatric therapist, about water safety for neurodivergent children. From Michele’s personal experience with her daughter Josephine’s love of water to Cindy’s decades of training professionals, they explore practical strategies to prevent drowning, recognize warning signs, and create safe, empowering water environments.


Below you’ll find the full episode guide with key takeaways and standout quotes to guide your listening.





Episode Guide


[12:30] Understanding the Sensory Draw to Water

Children with autism often seek water for sensory regulation, but this natural attraction can be life-threatening if unmonitored. Understanding the “why” behind their behavior is the first step in preventing tragedy.

“Neurodivergent kids don’t lack fear — they often lack body awareness.” –Cindy Freedman


[15:00] Familiarity with Safety Tools Saves Lives

Introducing rescue tubes, kickboards, and flotation devices in calm settings teaches children how to respond safely under pressure. Early exposure transforms fear into confidence and preparedness.


“If I’ve never seen this, I’m likely to push it away. Familiarity builds confidence and safety.” –Cindy Freedman

[18:00] Rituals and Predictable Routines

Creating structured water routines and asking permission before entering water helps children regulate behavior and signals caregivers to intervene if needed. These rituals are particularly important for students with rigidity or sensory needs.


“You can’t prevent drowning if you’re teaching the wrong way.” –Cindy Freedman

[22:00] Practical School-Based Applications

Schools can integrate rescue tubes and water routines during pool lessons or water activities to normalize safety practices. Consistent practice ensures children understand expectations and reduces risk.


“Parents are desperate for support. We need to meet them with empathy and tools.” –Cindy Freedman

[26:00] Advanced Training for Educators and Instructors

Professional training for teachers and swim instructors helps them recognize triggers, intervene effectively, and implement adaptive strategies tailored to each child. Education is the foundation of water safety.


“If we train for access and safety in the water, we’re saving lives — not just teaching swim.” –Cindy Freedman

[30:00] Monitor and Intervene Beyond Visual Supervision

Effective supervision goes beyond simply watching children; instructors and caregivers must know when to intervene to prevent dangerous behaviors like prolonged breath-holding or excessive water drinking.


“Drowning is preventable. We just have to stop teaching water safety the same way to every kid.” –Cindy Freedman

[34:00] Low-Cost Safety Measures in Schools and Homes

Simple tools like door jingle bells, visual signage, or small alarms can prevent wandering and elopement, reinforcing a culture of safety without expensive infrastructure.


“You don’t have to choose between safety and inclusion. The water can be both.” –Cindy Freedman

[36:00] Collaborative Safety Networks

Parents, educators, therapists, and community members working together create a safety net that supports children both at home and at school. Collaboration strengthens awareness and proactive intervention.


“Intervention starts with observation — and with people who care enough to act.” –Michele Gay

[37:00] Especially Safe: Individualized Planning

The Especially Safe program develops safety plans tailored to each child’s unique needs, from sensory issues to trauma, ensuring practical strategies are in place for every environment.


“Safety isn’t one-size-fits-all. Planning for the individual is key.” –Michele Gay

[39:00] Key Takeaway: Drowning is Preventable

With layered strategies, education, and awareness, communities can prevent drowning incidents and protect neurodivergent children. Every intervention matters.


“Drowning is preventable. We can add the extra layers of protection. We can talk with each other, we can implement these strategies, and we are going to make a difference together.” –Cindy Freedman


Listen to the Full Episode with Cindy Freedman

This episode of The Sound Off offers a practical, life-saving approach to water safety for neurodivergent children. From empowering parents and educators to creating individualized safety plans, Michele and Cindy’s conversation is essential listening for anyone responsible for the safety and inclusion of children. Whether you’re a parent, teacher, therapist, or community leader—there’s guidance here that could save a life.



This episode is proudly sponsored by Status Solutions Network. SSN provides schools with safety technology at no cost and ongoing funding to address their unique and evolving needs—made possible through the support of local businesses advertising on the platform.



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